Chapter 16 - Carlisle

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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
I think Carlisle starving himself..shows how strong he is in his desire not to be what he could have very easily become

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I kind of thought, after he saved her from the guys int he alley and was this close to rippign them to shreds that he HAD at soem point given in to his thirst..but the fact that it was "bad guys only" is soo Edward...wanting to be good even when he is being a "monster" and more than a bit arrogant in deciding who was "bad" or not.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
sooon..very soon hopefully :P

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
he has nothing else to hide..all his big darks secrets are out and Bella still wants him..so he can be himself :)
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?

that they didn't need to breathe, it never really accord to me that was possible, since Edward was breathing before that, or seemed to be.

i have to admit i still laugh at the part when Edward was like "so he swam to France." i had the exact same reaction as Bella, forgetting that he was in England.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

i wasn't really suprised, i just accepted it. i mean he was killing murders, so i guess it isn't that bad. he wasn't harming inocents.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

um... well he doesn't really need a bed, they can just do it on the couch, just kidding. i don't think he really is ever going to get a bed before they get married. but other than the lack of a bed his room seemed like anyother teenagers room.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?

he realized that he could be himself with her and that he wanted too.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
Well, for me I think I was more suprised to learn that they don't need to breathe. That kind of explains a lot about how Edward can hold his breath so he doesn't smell Bella (when they first met in Biology). Does that make sense?
2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I thought this was reasonable. I mean he is a vampire and you can't expect them to be able to keep to their 'vegitarian' diet. When I found out that he only killed 'bad' humans, it just made me love him even more. I mean, if your going to eat humans, why eat the innocent?

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

Ha. If they DO it, I think they'd do it at Bellas, since he is there most of the time with her at night. But, he'd probably get a bed after they got married (if they do get married).

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
Edward realized that Bella loves him for who he is, and she doesn't mind him being a vampire. Now that he told her all about him, he is more at ease with himself and Bella.
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I stress the importance in discussing this chapter that those of you who have read New Moon need to still keep your spoilers to yourself! It won't be long and we can discuss them freely.

1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
I don't know, the breathing I guess. Although the being torn to shreds and burned could be foreshadowing... I'll just have to wait.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I was a little disturbed, but mostly I agreed with Bella. And in killing them he also saved the people they were pursuing.


3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
Only if she's a vamp. I think if he knew it were safe he wouldn't wait until marriage like some people say, but he's so worried about her.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
I can relate to this. I feel I keep a lot of secrets, and I do feel closer to people who know the truth about me. I feel I can trust them, that I don't have to wonder if they wouldn't like me if they knew all about myself.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
Well, it's was kind of normal for vampires that they're hard to kill, but it suprized me that Carlisle starved himself, because when you think of a vampire, you think of the monster and they don't usually starve, they eat when they're hungry and get what they want when they want. So that was really suprising, that means he desided to be a good vampire from the time he was made. And the fact that they didn't have to breathe is pretty interesting too :)


2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
well yeah, it is kind of reasonable, he's vampire after all, isn't he? But I think that Carlisle was his idol and he was his 'savior' on some way, so that's probably why he chose to live the right way, even though it's really hard for him, as it is for every vampire.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
Well they don't need bed for romatic things, they can do it anywhere. And by the way, most of the time they're in Bella's house and in Bella's room and bed. He doesn't really need the bed, because he doesn't sleep and he doesn't spent that much time in his house.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden
Well i think he was afraid to be around her before he checked that he can be close to her without hurting her, and after that he probably thought 'if i did it once, i can do it twice' so he just became stronger after that.. he had to test himself.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
The fact that they would choose to feed on animals instead of humans was the detail that caught most of my attention. I mean, they'd have to be very strong(more mentally than physically)to be able to contain themselves-that's why I admire them so much. Naw. . . that's an understatement; I love them all!!!!!!!!!!
2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I would have to say his actions could be justified. I mean come on! He's EDWARD for God's sake. He had a pretty good exception, for lack of a better word when killied the "bad" ones, mostly because they deserved it.
3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
Of course he has to get a bed and immediately! :oops: but I wonder: would he want to take her to a hotel :oops: . . .
4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?I think it would be how much they finally know about each other,and their connection and relationship became so strong in those two days. Probaly the fact that they know each other's family,and that they love each other so much-especially Edward-that they(or should I say "he")can't or won't hide anything from Bella from the same fact that he loves her.i make no sense..heh :(
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
That they are very difficult to kill. Other than Stephenie's vampires, every other vamp story I've ever heard centered around the fact that vampires are bad and very easy to kill: a stake right through the heart will take care of them. However, the Cullens are not like that at all. The fact that they are like stone threw me for a loop.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I thought it made sense that he at least tried that way of life, seeing as it is his basic nature. And his decision to only feed on "bad" humans made his reasoning seem even more logical.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
Oh gosh! :oops: I think he'll probably get one when (I REFUSE to say IF) he changes Bella....

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
He told Bella (not in so many words, but he said it nonetheless) that he loves her. And she told him she loves him too. I think the fact that he wants to stay with her helps him be himself.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
Probably that they don't need to breathe.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I was with Bella on that one; I thought it was reasonable for him to want to 'break' from Carlisle's philosphy. I thought Edward had a good philosphy as well, to kill only those that were 'evil'. It was nice to hear that he still had remorse for taking even those lives.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
The day Bella has completed her transformation. :oops:

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
No more secrets about who he is (major ones, at least). She's stayed with him for two days, has met his parents and family, has revealed all that he is and Bella is still there, still accepting him for what he is (in all his godlike glory :wink: )
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?

Well, I wasn't exactly surprised that vampires are difficult to kill. This one I had already expected. What surprised me was the fact that Charlisle was so determined not to become a monster that he actually tried to starve himself. The information that vampires don't need to breathe at all was quite surprising for me as well.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

I would have expected something like that. It is extremely difficult for good vampires to stick to their diet so it is to be expected that they fail sometime. I therefore thought along with Bella that it was quite reasonable. I really like Edward's choice to kill only bad people, choosing his victims very carefully. Even in his bad time, he was not entirely bad, killing innocent people. Of course that does not justify those murders, nobody deserves to be just killed like that. Nevertheless I approve of Edward's way to choose his victims.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

I am not sure if he really needs one. They spend a lot of time in Bella's bedroom anyway so I don't see it as so very important to get a bed soon. It would still be nice, I guess, for weekends if Bella stays over night or something like that or if they get finally married...

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?

Maybe he has finally understood that Bella is determined to stay with him, no matter what he is or what might happen. They have no more secrets and despite the things Bella knows, she is still there, still loving him and even willing to meet his whole family. Their relationship is somewhat "official" and I guess Edward is just relieved that everything is going so well and his confessions have not scared Bella away.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
I think what suprised me the most was the Carlisle part. I knew that they were "vegetarian" but I didn't know how it all had started. I think it was fascninating to learn the history behind the good vampires.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
Well, I do think it's kind of reasonable. He hadn't found himself yet. That he only killed "bad" humans made me love Edward so much more, because he didn't want to really give in to his vampire nature (killing random humans that is)

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
hmmm...I don't think that he will get a bed until bella is changed. because I don't think Charlie would be that excited with bella sleeping over and stuff like that. They don't need a bed yet...

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
I think that knowing he can tell her anything changed him. He can for the first time in his life be completly honest. Knowing that Bella loves him too may have made an impact too :wink:
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